Aggressiveres Preflopspiel als SS

    • cyan2k
      Dabei seit: 09.08.2005 Beiträge: 1.891
      Nachdem ich mir jetzt schon die Sklansky-Chubkov-Rankings in mein Spiel einverleibt habe, um profitabel öfters die Blinds zu stealen (siehe ) bin ich im Inet noch auf 2 weitere interessante Sachen gestoßen, die ich in der Form noch in keinem Thread oder Coaching gesehen habe...
      deswegen möchte ich euch das nicht vorenthalten. Die Texte stammen aus dem Blog eines 2+2 SS-Spieler. Ist viel Text, aber es lohnt sich!

      übers Restealen:

      Hand 2: Folded to the slightly loose-aggressive small blind who raises to 4x. You are in the big blind.

      Here the small blind is likely opening with a wide range. He can’t call your push with everything - in fact he will have to fold a majority of hands depending on what he raises with and whether he is a good player. Top 30% is probably a reasonable range - any ace, any pair, two broadway, the better suited hands. Let’s say that if you push he will call with Top 10% - AT+, A9s, 55+, KQs. This might be a little tight, but this is just an example. So 2/3 of the time you will win 4.8bb from a push (remember the rake). This part of the play has an EV of .67*4.8 = +3.2bb.

      The other 1/3 of the time you will be called. Now here is the important thing to remember in this spot - for a push to be profitable strategy you only need to have positive overall EV; you can afford to be a loser the times your hand is called and still be making the best play. This is the key to all bluffing strategy and aggressive poker in general. The break even hand in this spot is the hand that only loses 1/.33 * 3.2bb for those times you are called. To lose 9.6 bb of equity on a hand where you started with 20 you have to be in a pot where your hand wins an all-in only ~28% of the time (20 - .28 * 38bb pot after rake = 9.6). As it turns out few hands are such huge underdogs, even against the top 10% of hands. The only hands you should not push all in with here are those containing deuces and treys (including A2 and A3) and a few of the other absolute worst hands like T4o. For example 96o will win 29.2% of the time in this spot if called. 20 - .292 * 38 = 11.0bb. So 2/3 of the time if you push with with 96o you will win 4.8 bb and 1/3 you will lose 9; 3.6 - 3 = +.6 big blinds of profit. Obviously the small blind needs to be calling your all in with more hands, or opening less, if he plans to continue his strategy. But this example shows the power of the resteal play, especially if your opponents will fold too often or make too large of a raise. You risked 20bb with 96o and were still making a very profitable poker move. In all areas of short stack poker, the best players utilize the resteal time after time. It’s the best defense against the correct strategy of aggressively attacking the blinds.
      Squeezen als SS
      Hand 1: Tight-aggressive middle position raises 4x and average button calls. You are in the big blind.

      A tight-aggressive middle position raiser is probably about top 10% here. The button’s range is a little looser than that, but more importantly, we can rule out the top hands from the button since most people will reraise with them. The button probably has something like suited broadways or suited connectors, a pocket pair tens or less, perhaps AQ. If you push the MP player is going to fold fairly often because he doesn’t want to commit with a player left to act with something too weak, plus, your push over a raise and a call shows strength. Let’s say he will call with top 3.8%, which is AA-TT, AK and AQs. So he will fold 62% of the time. Getting good odds last to act, if the MP player folds the button will call with a few lesser hands, say 77-TT, AQ and AJs. If he started with TT-22, AQ, AJ-ATs, KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, 76s, this means he will be calling with 33% of what he started with. And if MP calls button will always fold.

      First you need to calculate the chance that both players will fold to your push. You will win 9bb if this happens and it will happen (.62*.67) = 41.5% of the time. .415 * 9 is 3.73 so you net 3.73bb on average from this part of the play.

      38% of the time you will be called by MP and you will be facing a big hand in this spot, and 33% of the time you will be called by button’s weaker hand. In both cases you will be playing for a pot of 43bb after rake. So x*.38 + y*.33*.62 (remember button only calls if MP folds), where x is the amount you lose to MP’s range and y is the amount you lose to button’s range, must be greater than -3.73 bb. This has to be solved all at once, but let’s try to approximate it instead. As it turns out MP’s calling hands are a two to one favorite over button’s calling hands. Although there is some error in this, it is close to true that it is twice as bad from an amount lost standpoint to be called by MP than it is to face button. There are some hands that are even a favorite against button that you would lose money on against MP’s call. But here we aren’t worrying about those, just the minimum hand you need to move in with, since hands so good to be a favorite against button are obvious move-in hands anyway. So y = 1/2x.

      Substituting for y, x*.38 + .5*x*.33*.62 = .48*x must be greater than -3.73. So x must be greater than -7.7bb. In other words you need to get back 20-7.7 or at least 12.3bb the times you are called. 12.3/48 is 28.6%. So you need hands that have at least 28.6% equity against MP’s calling range of TT+, AQs+, AK. The range to win this low number against such big hands is rather odd. You should move in with AQ+, any pair, and QJ-KJ-KQ-JTs.

      Real players might call a little more often than this, and furthermore the fact that button’s approximated calling range contains mostly middle pairs overvalues the small pairs, so I would definitely fold those. But the message is the same. When there is a middle to late position raise and a call, move in often with your short stack. The times you pick up the pot are more than enough to make up for taking slightly the worst of it in an all-in. Hands like 88 or AQ are automatic all-in plays in this spot with a 20bb short stack.

      Note the advantage of having a short stack here. If you were deep, say 100bb, you could still make this raise, and in fact these resteal or “squeeze” plays are part of good, aggressive deep stack poker strategy as well. If you had 100bb here, you would probably want to resteal to around 20-24bb. Now, having to face the rest of your stack means that your opponents would fold many more hands. But the problem comes in the times that they do have the big hand and reraise, or worse, call and trap you with a big hand. With the short stack you still get to see all five cards and have a chance to suck out. But with 100bb, without a read you may have to fold to a 4-bet with hands as big as JJ or QQ in this spot. And it is almost as bad if you have a marginal hand and your resteal is called. Now you are out of position, with a weak hand, in a big pot, and you don’t know that much about what your opponent has. Even a truly world class poker player is going to have a tough time in this spot.

      As you can see these “raise and call” situations are where a lot of your profits will come from in short stack poker. In the next article I will begin discussion of postflop play.
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    • karlo123
      Dabei seit: 25.06.2005 Beiträge: 10.193
      Hi Cyan

      Zumindest der erste Teil wird so in Alatons (edit: So wie ich es mit meinem gebrochenem English verstanden habe) coaching vermittelt. Vielleicht nicht ganz so ausführlich aber das geht ja so spontan mit den rechnungen dann auch nicht.

      Und wer Stove nutzt wird auch so restealen (gut das ich Stove habe ;) ).

      Aber dennoch interessant und nat. korrekt.

      Squeezen lese ich mir erst jetzt durch.