NL25sh erst up dann down -630$

    • Bloodhunter
      Bloodhunter
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 29.11.2006 Beiträge: 309
      Vorgeschichte:
      NL5FR easy geschlagen
      Nl10FR lange breakeven Phase , am ende innerhalb eines Monats geschlagen

      Jetzt: Nl25 , fast aufstieg auf NL50sh doch jetzt down

      Hab jetzt cirka 80k hände auf NL25sh gespielt und war schon kurz vor dem aufstieg auf NL50 mit ner winrate von 2PTBB/100 hände ( auf 40-60k hände )
      Zwar nicht die beste Winrate aber immerhin. Jedoch in 18k händen 18stacks versemmelt und bin wieder verdammt weit weg vom aufstieg. Habe jetzt auch fast kein vertrauen mehr in mein spiel geschweige denn ob ich überhaupt noch was richtig mache. Jeden Tag geht es jetzt immer weiter runter und ich muss mich schon fest anstrengen nicht zu tilten. Hatte auch nen riesen up innerhalb von 20k händen.

      Wär nett wenn sich mal wer meine videos anschauen könnte und ein bischen kommentieren, zumindest das letzte:

      NL 25sh Feedback Please

      Werde heute am abend bzw morgen noch ein video machen/posten hoffe jemand kann mein spiel mal kurz analysieren, oder zumindest ein bischen ansehn.

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      paar Hände:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $26.29
      MP2:
      $27.71
      BU:
      $22.63

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:heart: , J:club:
      MP2 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($4.85) 9:spade: , J:heart: , A:spade: (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.70, BU calls $3.70, MP2 calls $3.70.

      Turn: ($15.95) J:diamond: (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $20, BU raises to $17.43 (All-In), MP2 folds.

      River: ($53.38) 7:diamond:


      Final Pot: $53.38

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Qh, Jc ] three of a kind, Jacks
      BU shows [ 7h, Js ] a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
      Hero wins $2.57 USD with three of a kind, Jacks.
      BU wins $48.27 USD with a full house, Jacks full of Sevens.



      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)  
      Position:
      Stack
      MP3:
      $35.20
      Hero:
      $24.90
      SB:
      $22.18

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:heart: , A:spade:
      MP3 raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BU calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.50, MP3 calls $2.00, 2 folds, SB calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($8.50) 2:club: , 7:club: , K:diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $6, MP3 calls $6.00, SB folds.

      Turn: ($20.50) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $15, MP3 raises to $26.70 (All-In), Hero raises to $16.40 (All-In).

      River: ($63.60) 4:club:


      Final Pot: $63.60

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      MP3 shows [ 3c, Ac ] a flush, Ace high
      Hero shows [ Kh, As ] a pair of Kings
      MP3 wins $10.30 USD with a flush, Ace high.
      MP3 wins $51.30 USD with a flush, Ace high.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $29.47
      BB:
      $25
      SB:
      $20.43

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:club: , Q:diamond:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($3.00) T:spade: , Q:spade: , 9:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70, BB folds.

      Turn: ($8.40) 5:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $10.00, Hero raises to $25.77 (All-In), SB raises to $16.73 (All-In).

      River: ($50.90) 8:heart:


      Final Pot: $50.90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Qc, Qd ] three of a kind, Queens
      SB shows [ Ks, Js ] a straight flush, King high
      Hero wins $9.04 USD with three of a kind, Queens.
      SB wins $39.27 USD with a straight flush, King high.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $27.12
      MP3:
      $18.53

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:spade: , K:diamond:
      MP3 raises to $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($3.85) 6:spade: , 9:heart: , 5:spade: (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $2.70, MP3 raises to $16.78 (All-In), Hero calls $14.08.

      Turn: ($37.41) 2:club:
      River: ($37.41) 7:heart:


      Final Pot: $37.41

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Ks, Kd ] a pair of Kings
      MP3 shows [ 6h, 6d ] three of a kind, Sixes
      MP3 wins $35.04 USD with three of a kind, Sixes.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $32.40
      Hero:
      $26.97

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club: , K:heart:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($2.00) 5:heart: , 8:heart: , T:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.40, BB calls $1.40.

      Turn: ($4.80) 3:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.00.

      River: ($10.80) 8:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6, BB raises to $27.00 (All-In), Hero raises to $21.57 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $59.37

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      BB shows [ 4s, Ah ] a flush, Ace high
      Hero shows [ Ac, Kh ] a flush, King high
      BB wins $5.43 USD with a flush, Ace high.
      BB wins $51.25 USD with a flush, Ace high.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here) 
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $24.55
      SB:
      $48.87
      CO:
      $25.08

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 2:spade: , 2:club:
      CO raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB folds.

      Flop: ($3.25) 7:heart: , A:spade: , 2:diamond: (3 players)
      SB bets $1, CO calls $1.00, Hero raises to $4.00, SB calls $3.00, CO calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($15.25) 9:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8.00, CO raises to $20.08 (All-In), Hero raises to $19.55 (All-In), SB calls $12.08.

      River: ($74.96) K:diamond:


      Final Pot: $74.96

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ 2s, 2c ] three of a kind, Twos
      SB shows [ Jd, Ac ] a pair of Aces
      CO shows [ 7d, 7c ] three of a kind, Sevens
      CO wins $1.06 USD with three of a kind, Sevens.
      CO wins $71.90 USD with three of a kind, Sevens.


      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:club: , K:heart:
      2 folds, SB raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, SB raises to $9.00, Hero raises to $28.18 (All-In), SB raises to $22.50 (All-In).

      Flop: ($50.68) 8:spade: , 4:spade: , 7:spade:
      Turn: ($50.68) 5:diamond:
      River: ($50.68) 9:club:


      Final Pot: $50.68

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of Kings
      SB shows [ Ac, Ad ] a pair of Aces
      Hero wins $5.68 USD with a pair of Kings.
      SB wins $42.50 USD with a pair of Aces.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $26.29
      MP2:
      $27.71
      BU:
      $22.63

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:heart: , J:club:
      MP2 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($4.85) 9:spade: , J:heart: , A:spade: (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.70, BU calls $3.70, MP2 calls $3.70.

      Turn: ($15.95) J:diamond: (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $20, BU raises to $17.43 (All-In), MP2 folds.

      River: ($53.38) 7:diamond:


      Final Pot: $53.38

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Qh, Jc ] three of a kind, Jacks
      BU shows [ 7h, Js ] a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
      Hero wins $2.57 USD with three of a kind, Jacks.
      BU wins $48.27 USD with a full house, Jacks full of Sevens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $67.21
      CO:
      $63.64

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 5:diamond: , 5:heart:
      MP3 folds, CO raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, 2 folds, CO calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($6.35) 7:heart: , 5:club: , 3:diamond: (2 players)
      CO bets $5, Hero calls $5.00.

      Turn: ($16.35) T:club: (2 players)
      CO bets $8, Hero raises to $25.00, CO raises to $55.64 (All-In), Hero calls $30.64.

      River: ($127.63) 8:club:


      Final Pot: $127.63

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ 5d, 5h ] three of a kind, Fives
      CO shows [ Th, Td ] three of a kind, Tens
      CO wins $125.63 USD with three of a kind, Tens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $36.72
      SB:
      $45.48

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:diamond: , 4:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB folds.

      Flop: ($2.25) 4:club: , 4:heart: , 9:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB calls $1.80.

      Turn: ($5.85) 9:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6.00, Hero calls $3.00.

      River: ($17.85) Q:heart: (2 players)
      SB bets $36.68 (All-In), Hero raises to $27.92 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $82.45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Qd, 4d ] a full house, Fours full of Queens
      SB shows [ 9h, 9d ] four of a kind, Nines
      SB wins $8.76 USD with four of a kind, Nines.
      SB wins $71.69 USD with four of a kind, Nines.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      BU:
      $45.96
      Hero:
      $34.91
      CO:
      $20.95

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:spade: , Q:diamond:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BU raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($7.85) 9:spade: , A:diamond: , K:heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $6, CO folds, BU calls $6.00.

      Turn: ($19.85) K:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $8, Hero raises to $26.41 (All-In), BU calls $18.41.

      River: ($72.67) 9:diamond:


      Final Pot: $72.67

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      BU shows [ As, Ac ] a full house, Aces full of Kings
      Hero shows [ Ks, Qd ] a full house, Kings full of Nines
      BU wins $69.67 USD with a full house, Aces full of Kings.


      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:club: , Q:spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $3.00, BB folds, Hero raises to $9.00, SB raises to $48.57 (All-In), Hero calls $39.57.

      Flop: ($97.39) 3:diamond: , J:heart: , 7:club:
      Turn: ($97.39) K:club:
      River: ($97.39) K:spade:


      Final Pot: $97.39

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Qc, Qs ] two pairs, Kings and Queens
      SB shows [ Kd, Kh ] four of a kind, Kings
      SB wins $94.39 USD with four of a kind, Kings.



      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)  
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $28.11
      BU:
      $28.55
      CO:
      $17.70

      0.10/0.35 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:diamond: , 5:diamond: . CO posts a blind of $0.35.
      MP3 folds, CO checks, BU calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0.95) J:club: , 3:diamond: , 4:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.70, CO folds, BU calls $0.70.

      Turn: ($2.35) 7:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.70, BU calls $1.70.

      River: ($5.75) 6:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $5, BU raises to $25.90 (All-In), Hero raises to $25.46 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $57.11

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Jd, 5d ] a flush, Jack high
      BU shows [ Qd, Kd ] a flush, King high
      BU wins $0.44 USD with a flush, King high.
      BU wins $54.67 USD with a flush, King high.


      auch viele falsch gespielte hände gleich gefunden warscheinlich wegen tilt bzw hände wo ich mit top pair top kicker allin gegangen bin gegnerabhängig.
  • 11 Antworten
    • soneji
      soneji
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 22.01.2006 Beiträge: 6.928
      ich lad grad mal dein video runter und werds mir später mal angucken.
      ahja nl graphen lieber in $ posten und nicht in BB.
    • tomsnho
      tomsnho
      Silber
      Dabei seit: 24.11.2006 Beiträge: 7.565
      Es sind schon einige üble Setups dabei, aber zwei Sachen sind mir beim Überfliegen der Hände schon aufgefallen:

      2. Hand mit KK
      Villain raist auf 0,75$, Hero reraist auf 1,75$
      Damit hat Villain die perfekten Odds um auf Set-Value zu callen! Und er weiß dass er sehr oft gut ausbezahlt wird weil Hero Hände wie JJ - AA halten wird und damit im ReRa-Pot als Overpair broke gehen wird.
      Deshalb solltest deutlich höher raisen - würde sagen auf 3$ oder so wär ein guter Wert. Mindestens auf 2,75$ auf jeden Fall, wenn OOP wärst sogar definitiv auf über 3$.

      Hand mit QQ wo preflop AI gehst
      Selbst wenn es BU vs. SB ist, deine 4bet zeigt schon viel Stärke, und dass Villain dann bei 160 BB effektiven Stacks pusht, zeigt gerade deinem Limit enorme Stärke d.h. würde Villain zu mindestens 80 % AA oder KK geben. Du brauchst für den Call aber fast 40 % Equity, die hättest du erst wenn er AKs, AKo und QQ auch immer 5betpushen würde.
      Oder kurz gesagt: Mit QQ für 160BB einen 5bet-Push zu callen ist stark EV-
      Bei 100BB wärst natürlich committed, wenn der SB aggro 3bettet kann man für 100BB auf jeden Fall broke gehen mit QQ.


      Ansonsten - nicht entmutigen lassen, Downs kommen immer wieder vor und können durchaus grausam sein. Manchmal geht's dafür genausoschnell up =) einfach weiterspielen, stetig an deinem Spiel arbeiten (Hände posten, Strategieartikel durcharbeiten, Stats bewerten lassen, ...) dann wird's mit NL50SH schneller klappen als du denkst =)
    • Bloodhunter
      Bloodhunter
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 29.11.2006 Beiträge: 309
      Ging in den letzten Tagen wieder extrem gut , schon 12 stacks up again in den paar tagen , kann auch upswing sein 5.6ptbb/100h , aber werde jetzt schon meinen shot auf Nl50 wagen mit 1250$ und falls es nicht klappt bei 800$ absteigen :D

      Werde bei Nl50 nur mit 4 tables bzw vielleicht noch weniger am anfang anfangen um mich auf die betgrößen einzustellen das ich nicht scared spiele.
    • Bloodhunter
      Bloodhunter
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 29.11.2006 Beiträge: 309
      nach aufstieg jetzt nach 1k händs schon 6 stacks down , einfach zum verzweifeln , das meiste sicher beats.

      edit: 7

      noch 1 stack entfernt vom abstieg, hier die hände:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $57.27
      BU:
      $49.25

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:diamond: , K:club:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BU raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13.00, CO folds, BU calls $9.50.

      Flop: ($28.75) Q:spade: , 6:club: , Q:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $44.27 (All-In), BU raises to $36.25 (All-In).

      Turn: ($109.27) 5:club:
      River: ($109.27) 8:diamond:


      Final Pot: $109.27

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Kd, Kc ] two pairs, Kings and Queens
      BU shows [ Ad, As ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
      Hero wins $8.02 USD with two pairs, Kings and Queens.
      BU wins $98.25 USD with two pairs, Aces and Queens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $77.21
      BU:
      $32.39

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K:heart: , K:club:
      Hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, BU raises to $6.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, BU calls $12.00.

      Flop: ($36.75) 7:heart: , 2:diamond: , A:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $59.21 (All-In), BU raises to $14.39 (All-In).

      Turn: ($110.35) 5:heart:
      River: ($110.35) A:heart:


      Final Pot: $110.35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Kh, Kc ] two pairs, Aces and Kings
      BU shows [ Qs, As ] three of a kind, Aces
      Hero wins $44.82 USD with two pairs, Aces and Kings.
      BU wins $62.53 USD with three of a kind, Aces.



      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $58.46
      MP3:
      $134.48

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J:club: , K:spade:
      Hero raises to $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, 4 folds.

      Flop: ($4.75) 4:club: , K:club: , 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.60, MP3 raises to $7.20, Hero raises to $23.00, MP3 calls $15.80.

      Turn: ($50.75) 6:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $10.50, Hero raises to $33.46 (All-In), MP3 calls $22.96.

      River: ($117.67) 9:spade:


      Final Pot: $117.67

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Jc, Ks ] a pair of Kings
      MP3 shows [ Ac, Kh ] a pair of Kings
      MP3 wins $114.67 USD with a pair of Kings with Ace kicker.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $50
      MP2:
      $51.50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:diamond: , A:spade:
      MP2 raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $6.00, 4 folds, MP2 calls $4.00.

      Flop: ($12.75) 3:club: , 5:spade: , 6:diamond: (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $8, MP2 raises to $28.00, Hero raises to $44.00 (All-In), MP2 calls $16.00.

      Turn: ($100.75) 7:heart:
      River: ($100.75) J:heart:


      Final Pot: $100.75

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Ad, As ] a pair of Aces
      MP2 shows [ 4s, 4c ] a straight Three to Seven
      MP2 wins $97.75 USD with a straight, Three to Seven.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $36.40
      Hero:
      $50.75

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:club: , K:heart:
      3 folds, SB raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $6.00, SB calls $4.00.

      Flop: ($12.00) Q:club: , 7:club: , K:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $30.40 (All-In), Hero calls $21.40.

      Turn: ($72.80) 4:diamond:
      River: ($72.80) 9:spade:


      Final Pot: $72.80

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows [ Qd, Kd ] two pairs, Kings and Queens
      Hero shows [ Ac, Kh ] a pair of Kings
      SB wins $70.80 USD with two pairs, Kings and Queens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      CO:
      $59.50
      Hero:
      $50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:club: , A:spade:
      MP3 folds, CO raises to $2.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $4.00.

      Flop: ($12.25) J:heart: , 6:diamond: , 3:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $8, CO calls $8.00.

      Turn: ($28.25) 4:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks.

      River: ($28.25) T:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6, CO calls $6.00.

      Final Pot: $40.25

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      CO shows [ Qs, Qd ] a pair of Queens
      Hero shows [ Jc, As ] a pair of Jacks
      CO wins $38.25 USD with a pair of Queens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $55.78
      SB:
      $56.97

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:diamond: , J:spade:
      3 folds, BU raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $7.50, BU folds, SB calls $6.00.

      Flop: ($16.50) Q:spade: , 6:diamond: , A:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $49.46, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $77.96
    • tomsnho
      tomsnho
      Silber
      Dabei seit: 24.11.2006 Beiträge: 7.565
      Original von Bloodhunter
      nach aufstieg jetzt nach 1k händs schon 6 stacks down , einfach zum verzweifeln , das meiste sicher beats oder suboptimal gespielte Hände

      edit: 7
      FYP

      Auch wenn so ein Down heftig ist, alles einfach auf die Beats zu schieben ist nicht der richtige Weg - schau dir die Hände genau durch, lass sie dir durchsehen (nicht nur die dicken Losing-Hands), bin mir sicher dass ein nicht zu verachtender Teil des Verlustes auch auf schlechtes Spiel zurückzuführen ist.

      Die Einstellung "dass es nicht klappt liegt sicher an den sch*** Beats die ich beim Doomswitch auf dem neuen Limit krieg" solltest dringend ändern.
    • MrFloppyHH
      MrFloppyHH
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 25.10.2006 Beiträge: 222
      Erste Hand ist doch gleich grütze!
      Da habe ich gar nicht weiter gelesen
      Doch noch etwas geschaut
      Bei Q4 war doch schon Gefahr da als sich die 9 gedoppelt hat.
      Zeitpunkt Geld rein zu bringen hast du da auch verpasst
    • Bloodhunter
      Bloodhunter
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 29.11.2006 Beiträge: 309
      und hier noch ein paar hände mit weniger loss:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $57.24
      SB:
      $17.13

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:spade: , K:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BU folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds.

      Flop: ($4.50) A:spade: , 6:club: , 2:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.40, SB raises to $15.13 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $23.03


      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:spade: , J:heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, SB folds, BB raises to $7.00, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $9.25


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $55.78
      SB:
      $56.97

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:diamond: , J:spade:
      3 folds, BU raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $7.50, BU folds, SB calls $6.00.

      Flop: ($16.50) Q:spade: , 6:diamond: , A:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $49.46, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $77.96


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $50
      BU:
      $13.78

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade: , 6:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BU calls $2.00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($4.75) A:heart: , 7:diamond: , Q:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $4, Hero raises to $12.00, BU raises to $11.78 (All-In).

      Turn: ($28.53) 3:spade:
      River: ($28.53) Q:club:


      Final Pot: $28.53

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ As, 6c ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
      BU shows [ Kh, Qh ] three of a kind, Queens
      Hero wins $0.22 USD with two pairs, Aces and Queens.
      BU wins $26.90 USD with three of a kind, Queens.



      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $49.25
      SB:
      $153.37
      MP2:
      $50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with T:club: , K:diamond: . MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
      MP2 checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.25, BB folds, MP2 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($8.00) 5:diamond: , 9:spade: , 6:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $10.00, MP2 folds, Hero calls $5.00.

      Turn: ($28.00) 7:diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $140.87 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $168.87


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      MP3:
      $60.51
      BU:
      $39.46
      Hero:
      $50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9:heart: , 9:spade:
      Hero raises to $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, CO folds, BU calls $2.00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($6.75) 4:heart: , K:diamond: , 2:spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $4.60, MP3 calls $4.60, BU calls $4.60.

      Turn: ($20.55) 6:club: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU checks.

      River: ($20.55) T:spade: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU bets $5, Hero calls $5.00, MP3 calls $5.00.

      Final Pot: $35.55

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      MP3 shows [ Js, Ks ] a pair of Kings
      BU shows [ Kh, Th ] two pairs, Kings and Tens
      Hero shows [ 9h, 9s ] a pair of Nines
      BU wins $33.78 USD with two pairs, Kings and Tens.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $51.68
      MP3:
      $82.80
      CO:
      $58

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:club: , T:diamond:
      MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.00, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50.

      Flop: ($9.75) 6:club: , 7:spade: , 2:heart: (3 players)
      MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7, MP3 raises to $21.00, 2 folds.

      Final Pot: $37.75


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)    
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $49.75
      MP2:
      $14.50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:diamond: , 8:diamond:
      MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($5.75) K:spade: , 5:spade: , 2:diamond: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $1, Hero raises to $5.00, MP2 calls $4.00.

      Turn: ($15.75) A:heart: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $7.00 (All-In), Hero calls $7.00.

      River: ($29.75) 7:diamond:


      Final Pot: $29.75

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows [ Ad, 8d ] a pair of Aces
      MP2 shows [ As, 2s ] two pairs, Aces and Twos
      MP2 wins $28.27 USD with two pairs, Aces and Twos.



      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      BU:
      $45.03
      SB:
      $8.75
      Hero:
      $50

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7:heart: , A:heart:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BU calls $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds.

      Flop: ($6.50) 4:diamond: , 6:heart: , 3:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.60, BU folds, SB calls $4.60.

      Turn: ($15.70) A:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $2.15 (All-In).

      River: ($20.85) 2:spade:


      Final Pot: $20.85

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      SB shows [ 5c, As ] a straight Two to Six
      Hero shows [ 7h, Ah ] a pair of Aces
      Hero wins $0.85 USD with a pair of Aces.
      SB wins $19 USD with a straight, Two to Six.


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $50.34
      BB:
      $59.97

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:diamond: , 9:spade:
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($4.25) 2:heart: , T:diamond: , J:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $7.00, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $14.25


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $56.76
      BB:
      $59.23

      0.25/0.50 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:club: , Q:spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BB raises to $6.00, Hero calls $4.00.

      Flop: ($12.00) 5:club: , 5:heart: , 4:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $8, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $20.00

      und manche hände spiele ich anders wegen der history wenn mich zb einer immer agro 3 bettet spiel ich die hand anders als wenn mich einer selten 3bettet was wiederum manche handbewertungen einfach unmöglich macht und sich mein spiel sicher nicht verbessert dadurch. Deswegen würde ich mich freuen wenn wer mein video anschaut, statt aussagen zu treffen zu meinem suboptimalen spiel. Ich poste auch immer hände im handbewertungsforum.
    • Bloodhunter
      Bloodhunter
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 29.11.2006 Beiträge: 309
      Video ansehen bitte : http://rapidshare.de/files/39040280/06.04.2008NL25SHBloodhunter.rar.html

      kurz vor abstieg nl10... und ich hab keine ahnung mehr wie man FR spielt.
    • Darokh
      Darokh
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 28.07.2006 Beiträge: 137
      Da wir gerade das "Psychologieforum"-Team intensiver koordieren wäre es sicherlich eine angebrachte Frage, ob der Thread hier nicht besser in einem Handbewerterforum o.ä. aufgehoben wäre, wo auch das Publikum vorhanden ist, das Stellung zu deinem Video und deinen Händen nimmt...

      *Frageindierunde*
    • funmaker
      funmaker
      Global
      Dabei seit: 04.01.2006 Beiträge: 7.367
      Hi, die Idee ist wohl ganz gut. Hier steht ausführlich, was in welcher Situation für den OP am sinnvollsten ist: Richtlinien in diesem Forum - bitte vor deinem ersten Post lesen!

      @bloodhunter
      Für Dich scheint ja das wichtigste im Moment, die Bewertung Deiner Hände zu sein. Deshalb poste möglichst viele Hände in der Handbewertung!
    • sirjinx29
      sirjinx29
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 14.11.2005 Beiträge: 4.143
      mir gings genau ähnlcih auif NL50

      war knapp vorm aufstieg auf NL100 und hab dann die ganze roll verspielt.... irgendwie (roulette, NL200, usw :D )

      zu deinen händen

      die hände in deinem 2. post sind fast alle scheisse gespielt :D