Downswing oder was ist da los?

    • Justme57
      Justme57
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 03.08.2008 Beiträge: 280
      Hiho,

      spiele seit ungefähr 1-2 Wochen Poker nach der SSS..habe bei Pokerstars angefangen und es lief anfangs wirklich alles gut. Habe mich an das SHC gehalten und mache das immer noch und halte mich imo an die Regeln der SSS. Kam so recht schnell von 50$ auf 80$ BR und habe jetzt in den letzen beiden Tagen etwa 18 Stacks -> 36 $ verloren

      eigentlich spiele ich nicht anders wie am Anfang...aber verliere irgendwie jeden Showdown (von den letzen 10 Pocketassen hab ich sicher 8 gefühlt verloren)
      macht echt kein spaß so ^^

      ich poste einfach mal einige der wipeout Hände, vielleicht kann ja jemand was dazu sagen

      danke



      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:club: , J:diamond:
      UTG+1 calls $0,10, UTG+2 calls $0,10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, UTG+1 raises to $0,70, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1,20, UTG+1 raises to $1,70, Hero raises to $2,00 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($4,25) 9:spade: , 5:diamond: , 8:spade:
      Turn: ($4,25) 3:heart:
      River: ($4,25) Q:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,25



      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, SB raises to $0,70, BB folds, Hero raises to $2,05 (All-In), SB calls $1,35.

      Flop: ($4,20) 9:diamond: , 5:spade: , J:spade:
      Turn: ($4,20) 4:heart:
      River: ($4,20) A:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,20



      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:heart: , K:heart:
      4 folds, CO calls $0,10, BU folds, Hero raises to $0,50, BB folds, CO calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,10) T:diamond: , 3:diamond: , 3:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,70, CO raises to $1,40, Hero calls $0,70.

      Turn: ($3,90) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,30 (All-In), CO calls $0,30.

      River: ($4,50) 6:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,50



      Preflop: Hero is CO with J:club:, J:heart:
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $0,50, Hero raises to $1,70 (All-In), 3 folds, MP3 calls $1,20.

      Flop: ($3,55) 3:spade: , K:heart: , A:heart:
      Turn: ($3,55) 6:diamond:
      River: ($3,55) 4:diamond:


      Final Pot: $3,55



      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade: , J:diamond: . CO posts a blind of $0,10.
      3 folds, CO checks, BU folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BB calls $0,30, CO folds.

      Flop: ($0,90) 6:spade: , 9:club:, Q:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,60, BB raises to $1,20, Hero raises to $1,15 (All-In), BB gets uncalled bet back..

      Turn: ($3,20) 2:diamond:
      River: ($3,20) 3:spade:


      Final Pot: $3,20



      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:club:, A:spade:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BU folds, SB calls $0,35, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0,90) 9:diamond: , 3:diamond: , Q:diamond: (2 players)
      SB bets $0,20, Hero raises to $0,80, SB calls $0,60.

      Turn: ($2,50) 8:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0,50 (All-In), SB calls $0,50.

      River: ($3,50) K:club:


      Final Pot: $3,50



      Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q:spade: , Q:diamond: . MP1 posts a blind of $0,10.
      UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0,60, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0,60, 3 folds, BB calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($1,95) J:club:, K:diamond: , 3:heart: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

      Turn: ($1,95) T:heart: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1,85 (All-In), MP3 raises to $10,40 (All-In), BB folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back..

      River: ($5,65) 6:heart:


      Final Pot: $5,65



      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade: , A:diamond:
      UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0,10, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, Hero raises to $0,60, 4 folds, MP3 calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($1,45) T:heart: , 3:diamond: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $1,65 (All-In), MP3 calls $1,65.

      Turn: ($4,75) Q:club:
      River: ($4,75) 5:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,75


      Preflop: Hero is BU with J:club:, J:spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, SB calls $0,35, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0,90) A:heart: , T:diamond: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0,60, SB calls $0,60.

      Turn: ($2,10) J:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0,85 (All-In), SB calls $0,85.

      River: ($3,80) Q:spade:


      Final Pot: $3,80

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks (Jc Js)
      SB shows a straight, ace high (Kh Qc)

      SB wins with a straight, ace high (Kh Qc)



      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9:heart: , 9:spade:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, 2 folds, BB raises to $1,20, Hero raises to $2,40 (All-In), BB calls $1,20.

      Flop: ($4,85) 4:diamond: , 4:heart: , 2:diamond:
      Turn: ($4,85) Q:club:
      River: ($4,85) T:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,85

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, nines and fours (9h 9s)
      BB shows two pairs, aces and fours (Ad Ac)

      BB wins with two pairs, aces and fours (Ad Ac)



      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:spade: , A:heart:
      UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, MP2 raises to $1,90, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2,00 (All-In), MP2 calls $0,10.

      Flop: ($4,15) 4:spade: , T:spade: , 3:spade:
      Turn: ($4,15) 3:club:
      River: ($4,15) 3:heart:


      Final Pot: $4,15

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, threes (Qs Ah)
      MP2 shows three of a kind, threes (As Kc)

      MP2 wins with three of a kind, threes (As Kc)




      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:spade: , A:club:
      2 folds, MP1 raises to $0,35, Hero raises to $1,35 (All-In), 2 folds, BU raises to $2,50, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $7,35 (All-In), BU calls $4,85.

      Flop: ($16,20) J:spade: , A:spade: , 7:spade:
      Turn: ($16,20) 3:club:
      River: ($16,20) 8:diamond:


      Final Pot: $16,20

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Qs Ac)
      BU shows a pair of kings (Kd Kc)
      MP1 shows three of a kind, jacks (Jd Jh)

      MP1 wins with three of a kind, jacks (Jd Jh)




      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:diamond: , K:spade:
      UTG+1 raises to $0,40, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0,40, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,40, Hero raises to $1,80 (All-In), 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $1,40, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1,40.

      Flop: ($5,95) 4:spade: , 6:heart: , 4:heart: (2 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $1,20, UTG+1 folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back..

      Turn: ($5,95) 2:diamond:
      River: ($5,95) T:heart:


      Final Pot: $5,95

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of fours (Ad Ks)
      MP3 shows two pairs, queens and fours (Qd Qc)

      MP3 wins with two pairs, queens and fours (Qd Qc)



      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:heart: , K:spade:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0,10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0,50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,15) 6:heart: , 9:club:, A:club: (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $0,70, MP2 raises to $1,40, Hero raises to $1,20 (All-In), MP2 gets uncalled bet back..

      Turn: ($3,55) 3:spade:
      River: ($3,55) Q:heart:


      Final Pot: $3,55

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ah Ks)
      MP2 shows two pairs, nines and sixes (6d 9d)

      MP2 wins with two pairs, nines and sixes (6d 9d)



      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K:spade: , K:club:
      Hero raises to $0,40, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0,40, 5 folds, BB raises to $5,65 (All-In), Hero raises to $1,85 (All-In), MP1 calls $5,25.

      Flop: ($13,20) A:heart: , 3:diamond: , 6:spade:
      Turn: ($13,20) 6:club:
      River: ($13,20) 3:club:


      Final Pot: $13,20

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and sixes (Ks Kc)
      MP1 shows two pairs, kings and sixes (Kh Kd)
      BB shows two pairs, aces and sixes (Ac Qh)

      BB wins with two pairs, aces and sixes (Ac Qh)



      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:club:, A:heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, 4 folds, BB calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($0,85) T:diamond: , 2:diamond: , J:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0,60, BB calls $0,60.

      Turn: ($2,05) Q:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0,85 (All-In), BB calls $0,85.

      River: ($3,75) 9:diamond:


      Final Pot: $3,75

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ac Ah)
      BB shows a straight, queen high (8s 9s)

      BB wins with a straight, queen high (8s 9s)



      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:heart: , Q:spade:
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0,10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0,50, SB calls $0,45, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,60) 4:diamond: , 7:spade: , 6:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, UTG+2 bets $5,60 (All-In), Hero raises to $1,65 (All-In), SB folds, UTG+2 gets uncalled bet back..

      Turn: ($4,90) A:heart:
      River: ($4,90) T:club:


      Final Pot: $4,90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of queens (Qh Qs)
      UTG+2 shows two pairs, sixes and fours (6s 4h)

      UTG+2 wins with two pairs, sixes and fours (6s 4h)



      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: , Q:heart:
      7 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BB raises to $0,70, Hero raises to $1,90 (All-In), BB calls $1,20.

      Flop: ($3,80) 8:diamond: , A:club:, 4:diamond:
      Turn: ($3,80) J:club:
      River: ($3,80) 3:diamond:


      Final Pot: $3,80

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of queens (Qd Qh)
      BB shows two pairs, aces and jacks (Js As)

      BB wins with two pairs, aces and jacks (Js As)
  • 4 Antworten
    • JJanke88
      JJanke88
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 30.12.2006 Beiträge: 3.601
      Ohne mir jetzt alle Hände angeguckt zu haben, würde ich vorschlagen du postet einige Hände davon mal einzelnd in den Beispielhandforen.

      Ich sag nur mal exemplarisch was zu ersten Hand

      Preflop: Hero is BB with JClub , JDiamond
      UTG+1 calls $0,10, UTG+2 calls $0,10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, UTG+1 raises to $0,70, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1,20, UTG+1 raises to $1,70, Hero raises to $2,00 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $0,30.

      Hier sind 3 Limper in der Hand, d.h. du raist 4BB + 1BB pro Limper macht also 7 BB = 0,7 $ anstatt 0.4


      Oder hier

      Preflop: Hero is SB with AHeart , KHeart
      4 folds, CO calls $0,10, BU folds, Hero raises to $0,50, BB folds, CO calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,10) TDiamond , 3Diamond , 3Club (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,70, CO raises to $1,40, Hero calls $0,70.

      Fold auf den raise du hast keine Made Hand und noch einen großen Reststack
    • dungeon06
      dungeon06
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 18.03.2008 Beiträge: 1.021
      Da sind auf jeden Fall leaks dabei. Hier was zu den einzelnen Händen zu schreiben ist mir auch zuviel. Also ab ins Handbewertungsforum und mal nen paar Hände eingestellt. Da wird Dir sicher geholfen...
      Aber bitte immer nur eine Hand ;) . Macht die Sache verdammt einfacher.

      MfG
    • Rotgud
      Rotgud
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 26.10.2007 Beiträge: 740
      Kann mich meinen vorschreibern nur anschließen. Viele der Hände hast du overplayed.

      SSS heißt nicht auf jedem Flop sein Stack in die Mitte zu schieben. Calls mit nichts auf der Hand, minraises...sehe auf jedenfall noch viel Verbesserungspotential ;) .

      Viel Glück dabei, und besuch die Handbewertungsforen ruhig öfter.

      Gruß
    • Barkeeper
      Barkeeper
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 23.03.2006 Beiträge: 8.797
      Sehe das wie meine Vorredner, du hast leider noch einige Fehler in deinem Spiel. Aber kein Grund zur Panik, du hast schonmal den ersten Schritt in die richtige Richtung getan!
      Am besten nochmal alle Strategieartikel durchgehen und die Hände im Handbewertungsforum posten http://de.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1438 , maximal bitte 3 pro Thread.

      Viel Erfolg!

      Hier mach ich mal zu.

      Grüße