Über 40k Hände break even

    • Matzelinho89
      Matzelinho89
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.03.2007 Beiträge: 1.335
      Jo, bin psychisch ziemlich am Ende.. Die letzten 10 Tage Spielpensum aufrecht erhalten, konzentriert und tiltfrei durchgegrindet und trotzdem kommt nichts bei rum. Ich verstehe meine marginale winrate nicht. Ich habe mir tausende Videos angeschaut, Handbewertungen ALLE durch. Spiele meine Hände ziemlich gut und trotzdem nur diese 4-5 BB auf 100.

      Mein Problem in den letzten Tagen. Ich hitte nichts, renne in Setups, werde ge-2-outert ohne Ende. Blind vs Blind hitte ich null, mass outs kommen nicht an etc. Contis werden IMMER gecallt, werde ausgesuckt oder bin eh behind etc.

      Bin kurz davor alles hinzuschmeißen. Spiele im Schnitt 4-5k Hände am Tag und spiele dafür auch meine 5 Stunden. Aber für umgerechnet realtiv wenig Gewinn 150 Stunden im Monat dafür zu investieren halte ich für sehr fragwürdig. Überlege deshalb ob ich's Pokern sein lasse.

      Ziel dieses Threads eig.: Teilt mir eure Erfahrungen mit. Eure längsten BE-Phasen, Downswings etc. Brauche ein bisschen Aufmunterung sonst zerlege ich bald wieder meine kleine Bude^^

      Hier noch der Graph. Habe den Zeitraum schwarz markiert ( Spiele zurzeit NL25 ):

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    • Matzelinho89
      Matzelinho89
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.03.2007 Beiträge: 1.335
      Spiele 18/14/3,7 .. Grob zu meiner Spielweise. Also nichts völlig außergewöhnliches
    • Matzelinho89
      Matzelinho89
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.03.2007 Beiträge: 1.335
      Paar Musterhände der letzten Tage:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      MP3 (25,60)
      
      
      CO (44,95):
      95	33	67	19
      10	958	2,2	14
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T:club:, A:club:
      [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], CO calls $1,00, [color:grey]3 folds[/color].

      Flop: ($2,35) A:spade: , T:heart: , 3:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $1,50[/color], [color:red]CO raises to $4,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $24,60 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $20,60.

      Turn: ($51,55) J:diamond:
      River: ($51,55) 4:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $51,55

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, aces and tens (Tc Ac)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows two pairs, aces and jacks (Ad Js)[/color]

      [color:white]CO wins with two pairs, aces and jacks (Ad Js)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (30,30):
      50	19	33	30
      28	40	0,8	58
      
      BB (25,00)
      
      
      CO (25,00):
      92	26	53	18
      8	478	2,3	14
      
      
      
      BU (11,80):
      0	25	67	0
      0	32	4,3	41
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:club:, J:diamond:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]CO raises to $0,75[/color], BU calls $0,75, SB calls $0,65, Hero calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($3,00) 5:diamond: , T:diamond: , J:heart: [color:blue](4 players)[/color]
      SB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $2,00[/color], [color:red]CO raises to $5,25[/color], BU calls $5,25, [color:grey]SB folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $24,25 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $19,00 (All-In), BU calls $5,80 (All-In).

      Turn: ($62,55) 9:diamond:
      River: ($62,55) Q:club: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      Hero gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

      Final Pot: $62,55

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, jacks and tens (Tc Jd)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows three of a kind, tens (Ts Th)[/color]
      [color:white]BU shows a straight, king high (Qh Kh)[/color]

      [color:white]BU wins with a straight, king high (Qh Kh)[/color]




      Da dachte ich mir: Irgendwie immer beat gegen nen halbwegs vernünftigen Gegner:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (30,20):
      50	24	50	29
      15	130	4,7	18
      
      
      
      BB (21,90):
      100	25	100	11
      6	67	11,0	22
      
      BU (30,60)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 6:diamond: , 6:heart:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], SB calls $0,90, BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,00) T:diamond: , 6:spade: , 8:spade: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      [color:red]SB bets $2,25[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $5,25[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $29,60 (All-In)[/color], [color:grey]SB folds[/color], BB calls $15,65 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($47,05) J:club:
      River: ($47,05) 2:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $47,05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, sixes (6d 6h)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows three of a kind, eights (8c 8h)[/color]

      [color:white]BB wins with three of a kind, eights (8c 8h)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (16,35):
      50	43	56	7
      9	54	0,3	39
      
      BB (26,90)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](2 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:diamond: , K:spade:
      [color:red]SB raises to $0,50[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $2,75[/color], SB calls $2,25.

      Flop: ($5,50) T:heart: , K:heart: , 2:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $3,50[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $13,60 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $10,10.

      Turn: ($32,70) 3:club:
      River: ($32,70) 4:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $32,70

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, kings (Kd Ks)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows a flush, king high (5c 5h)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with a flush, king high (5c 5h)[/color]



      Hier hätte ich den turn sogar b/f gespielt. Im nachhinein weiß ich nicht ob die Hand doch nicht überspielt war:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (51,80):
      0	19	67	15
      10	81	1,8	47
      
      MP3 (36,90)
      
      
      CO (63,45):
      60	42	47	43
      32	385	1,8	31
      
      
      
      BU (30,45):
      72	25	48	21
      14	1.640	8,5	15
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:spade: , J:spade:
      [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], CO calls $1,00, BU calls $1,00, SB calls $0,90, [color:grey]BB folds[/color].

      Flop: ($4,25) 3:spade: , 2:spade: , 7:spade: [color:blue](4 players)[/color]
      [color:red]SB bets $1,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,75[/color], CO calls $3,75, [color:grey]2 folds[/color].

      Turn: ($12,75) 2:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $9,00[/color], CO calls $9,00.

      River: ($30,75) 6:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $23,15 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $23,15.

      Final Pot: $77,05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a flush, king high (Ks Js)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows a flush, ace high (As 5s)[/color]

      [color:white]CO wins with a flush, ace high (As 5s)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      BB (16,15):
      78	27	47	29
      15	284	2,8	24
      
      CO (49,90)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](4 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:club:, A:diamond:
      [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]2 folds[/color], BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($2,10) K:club:, T:spade: , Q:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]BB bets $1,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,50[/color], BB calls $2,50.

      Turn: ($9,10) 6:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $5,75[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $11,65 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $5,90.

      River: ($32,40) Q:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $32,40

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, aces and queens (Ac Ad)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows a full-house, queens full of kings (Kd Qd)[/color]

      [color:white]BB wins with a full-house, queens full of kings (Kd Qd)[/color]




      Auch ne supertypische Hand der letzten Sessions:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      BB (8,75):
      0	37	29	46
      17	70	2,2	40
      
      MP3 (30,90)
      
      
      BU (25,00):
      -	33	25	100
      27	26	2,4	54
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:spade: , Q:heart:
      [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]CO folds[/color], BU calls $1,00, [color:grey]SB folds[/color], BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,10) A:diamond: , 8:diamond: , 5:heart: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $2,25[/color], BU calls $2,25, [color:grey]BB folds[/color].

      Turn: ($7,60) 7:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $5,50[/color], BU calls $5,50.

      River: ($18,60) K:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:red]BU bets $16,25 (All-In)[/color], [color:grey]Hero folds[/color], BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $18,60




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      BB (4,18):
      0	48	42	4
      4	102	1,8	60
      
      
      
      MP2 (27,38):
      64	22	35	21
      11	590	2,1	16
      
      MP3 (38,34)
      
      
      BU (34,77):
      -	50	67	0
      2	62	0,7	34
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:diamond: , Q:spade:
      [color:red]MP2 raises to $1,00[/color], Hero calls $1,00, [color:grey]CO folds[/color], BU calls $1,00, [color:grey]SB folds[/color], BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($4,10) 6:spade: , Q:club:, 4:club: [color:blue](4 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]MP2 bets $3,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $8,90[/color], [color:grey]2 folds[/color], MP2 calls $5,90.

      Turn: ($21,90) 9:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      MP2 checks, [color:red]Hero bets $8,00[/color], [color:red]MP2 raises to $17,48 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $9,48.

      River: ($56,86) K:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $56,86

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]MP2 shows three of a kind, kings (Kd Kc)[/color]
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, queens (Qd Qs)[/color]

      [color:white]MP2 wins with three of a kind, kings (Kd Kc)[/color]





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (15,20):
      0	13	100	11
      11	55	4,0	36
      
      
      
      BB (25,00):
      88	30	38	16
      9	150	0,8	18
      
      CO (25,00)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:club:, K:spade:
      [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]BU folds[/color], SB calls $0,90, BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,00) 7:spade: , 6:club:, 9:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      [color:red]SB bets $1,50[/color], [color:grey]BB folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $5,75[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $14,20 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $8,45.

      Turn: ($31,40) 2:diamond:
      River: ($31,40) T:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $31,40

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a pair of kings (Kc Ks)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows a straight, ten high (8s 8d)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with a straight, ten high (8s 8d)[/color]





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      MP2 (25,00)
      
      
      CO (28,55):
      83	17	40	30
      12	208	2,1	16
      
      
      
      BU (24,65):
      89	28	23	33
      15	243	2,4	25
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:heart: , K:club:
      [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color], CO calls $1,00, BU calls $1,00, [color:grey]2 folds[/color].

      Flop: ($3,35) 7:spade: , K:spade: , J:heart: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $2,75[/color], [color:grey]CO folds[/color], BU calls $2,75.

      Turn: ($8,85) T:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $5,75[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $20,90 (All-In)[/color], [color:grey]Hero folds[/color], BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $20,35





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      SB (40,50)
      
      
      BU (35,95):
      87	33	53	44
      21	696	3,7	24
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 2:heart: , 2:club:
      [color:grey]3 folds[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $0,75[/color], Hero calls $0,65, [color:grey]BB folds[/color].

      Flop: ($1,75) 2:spade: , A:spade: , 5:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $1,25[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $2,50[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $8,70[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $35,20 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $26,50.

      Turn: ($72,15) J:heart:
      River: ($72,15) 7:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $72,15

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, deuces (2h 2c)[/color]
      [color:white]BU shows a flush, ace high (Js 4s)[/color]

      [color:white]BU wins with a flush, ace high (Js 4s)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (34,83):
      100	33	56	21
      12	60	1,5	43
      
      
      
      BB (8,16):
      100	38	20	17
      6	35	1,4	29
      
      BU (38,11)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 9:diamond:, Q:diamond:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], SB calls $0,90, BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,00) 2:spade: , 9:club:, Q:club: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      SB checks, BB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $2,25[/color], SB calls $2,25, [color:red]BB raises to $7,16 (All-In)[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $37,11 (All-In)[/color], SB calls $31,58 (All-In).

      Turn: ($81,10) 6:diamond:
      River: ($81,10) 8:club: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $81,10

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, queens and nines (9d Qd)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows a flush, ace high (2c Ac)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows a pair of queens (Th Qh)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with a flush, ace high (2c Ac)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (41,30):
      100	20	71	25
      15	155	2,6	30
      
      
      
      MP3 (7,75):
      100	43	35	8
      6	105	1,3	52
      
      CO (32,30)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 6:heart: , 6:spade:
      MP3 calls $0,25, [color:red]Hero raises to $1,25[/color], [color:grey]BU folds[/color], SB calls $1,15, [color:grey]BB folds[/color], MP3 calls $1,00.

      Flop: ($4,00) J:spade: , 6:diamond:, 4:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      SB checks, MP3 checks, [color:red]Hero bets $2,75[/color], SB calls $2,75, [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color].

      Turn: ($9,50) K:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]SB bets $5,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $28,30 (All-In)[/color], SB calls $23,30.

      River: ($66,10) 9:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $66,10

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, sixes (6h 6s)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows three of a kind, jacks (Jh Jd)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with three of a kind, jacks (Jh Jd)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (26,95):
      100	6	100	44
      15	157	12,0	17
      
      BB (64,80)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:spade: , J:heart:
      [color:grey]3 folds[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $1,00[/color], Hero calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($2,00) A:club:, Q:spade: , T:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]SB bets $1,50[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $5,50[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $15,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $63,80 (All-In)[/color], SB calls $10,95 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($53,90) 9:diamond:
      River: ($53,90) A:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $53,90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a straight, ace high (Ks Jh)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows a full-house, aces full of queens (As Qc)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with a full-house, aces full of queens (As Qc)[/color]




      Mein Favorit:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      BB (26,80):
      78	32	57	12
      12	396	2,8	16
      
      
      
      MP2 (28,30):
      86	16	40	17
      11	210	3,5	16
      
      CO (29,70)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 8:heart: , 8:diamond:
      [color:red]MP2 raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color], Hero calls $1,00, [color:grey]2 folds[/color], BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,10) 8:spade: , 2:spade: , A:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]MP2 bets $2,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $6,50[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $25,80 (All-In)[/color], [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], Hero calls $19,30.

      Turn: ($56,70) 2:heart:
      River: ($56,70) 7:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $56,70

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a full-house, eights full of deuces (8h 8d)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows four of a kind, deuces (2c 2d)[/color]

      [color:white]BB wins with four of a kind, deuces (2c 2d)[/color]



      Naja wer kann den river folden^^


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      CO (31,90)
      
      
      BU (26,40):
      92	29	57	8
      7	241	2,2	13
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:heart: , K:diamond:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], BU calls $1,00, [color:grey]2 folds[/color].

      Flop: ($2,35) A:club:, 4:club:, K:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $1,50[/color], BU calls $1,50.

      Turn: ($5,35) 2:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $4,25[/color], BU calls $4,25.

      River: ($13,85) 4:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $9,25[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $19,65 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $10,40.

      Final Pot: $53,15

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, aces and kings (Ah Kd)[/color]
      [color:white]BU shows a full-house, deuces full of fours (2s 2c)[/color]

      [color:white]BU wins with a full-house, deuces full of fours (2s 2c)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      BB (38,37):
      50	42	40	44
      16	62	0,5	27
      
      MP3 (25,85)
      
      
      BU (19,40):
      100	29	50	0
      0	55	1,9	45
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5:club:, 5:diamond:
      [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]CO folds[/color], BU calls $1,00, [color:grey]SB folds[/color], BB calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($3,10) 2:spade: , 6:spade: , 5:spade: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $2,71[/color], BU calls $2,71, BB calls $2,71.

      Turn: ($11,23) A:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      BB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $9,00[/color], [color:grey]BU folds[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $34,66 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $13,14 (All-In).

      River: ($68,03) 2:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $68,03

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a full-house, fives full of deuces (5c 5d)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows a full-house, sixes full of deuces (6d 6h)[/color]

      [color:white]BB wins with a full-house, sixes full of deuces (6d 6h)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      SB (25,50)
      
      
      BU (64,25):
      71	21	74	28
      15	621	2,0	22
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6:club:, 6:spade:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $0,75[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,00[/color], [color:grey]BB folds[/color], BU calls $2,25.

      Flop: ($6,25) 8:diamond:, 6:diamond:, A:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $3,50[/color], [color:red]BU raises to $11,00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $22,50 (All-In)[/color], BU calls $11,50.

      Turn: ($51,25) 9:club:
      River: ($51,25) 5:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $51,25

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows three of a kind, sixes (6c 6s)[/color]
      [color:white]BU shows three of a kind, eights (8s 8c)[/color]

      [color:white]BU wins with three of a kind, eights (8s 8c)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      MP2 (25,00):
      0	33	38	23
      29	132	1,8	43
      
      CO (28,70)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:diamond:, K:spade:
      [color:red]MP2 raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,25[/color], [color:grey]3 folds[/color], MP2 calls $2,25.

      Flop: ($6,85) J:diamond:, 2:club:, 6:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]MP2 bets $8,50[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $25,45 (All-In)[/color], MP2 calls $13,25 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($50,35) Q:club:
      River: ($50,35) 7:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $50,35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a pair of kings (Kd Ks)[/color]
      [color:white]MP2 shows two pairs, queens and jacks (Jh Qd)[/color]

      [color:white]MP2 wins with two pairs, queens and jacks (Jh Qd)[/color]





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      SB (25,00)
      
      
      CO (47,65):
      100	26	40	28
      11	148	2,5	14
      
      
      
      BU (31,80):
      50	28	38	25
      12	124	1,7	26
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T:club:, T:spade:
      [color:grey]2 folds[/color], [color:red]CO raises to $0,75[/color], BU calls $0,75, [color:red]Hero raises to $3,75[/color], [color:grey]BB folds[/color], CO calls $3,00, BU calls $3,00.

      Flop: ($11,50) A:heart: , T:diamond:, A:club: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $6,00[/color], CO calls $6,00, [color:grey]BU folds[/color].

      Turn: ($23,50) 5:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $15,25 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $15,25.

      River: ($54,00) 6:heart: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $54,00

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a full-house, tens full of aces (Tc Ts)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows four of a kind, aces (As Ad)[/color]

      [color:white]CO wins with four of a kind, aces (As Ad)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      SB (25,00)
      
      
      BB (25,00):
      100	28	67	17
      11	508	3,8	12
      
      
      
      MP3 (17,10):
      100	26	43	0
      6	114	16,0	27
      
      
      
      CO (4,40):
      0	38	33	40
      8	26	0,7	65
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9:club:, 8:club:
      [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], MP3 calls $0,25, CO calls $0,25, [color:grey]BU folds[/color], Hero calls $0,15, [color:red]BB raises to $1,00[/color], MP3 calls $0,75, CO calls $0,75, Hero calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($4,00) 5:club:, 3:club:, J:club: [color:blue](4 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $2,75[/color], BB calls $2,75, [color:grey]MP3 folds[/color], CO calls $2,75.

      Turn: ($12,25) K:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $8,75[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $21,25 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $0,65 (All-In), Hero calls $12,50 (All-In).

      River: ($55,40) J:diamond: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      BB gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

      Final Pot: $55,40

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a flush, jack high (9c 8c)[/color]
      [color:white]BB shows a full-house, jacks full of kings (Js Ks)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows a pair of jacks (7c 6h)[/color]

      [color:white]BB wins with a full-house, jacks full of kings (Js Ks)[/color]





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      SB (29,61):
      75	55	83	13
      8	118	10,0	14
      
      BB (25,00)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:club:, K:heart:
      [color:grey]4 folds[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $0,75[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,00[/color], SB calls $2,25.

      Flop: ($6,00) 2:club:, 3:spade: , 9:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      SB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $3,75[/color], SB calls $3,75.

      Turn: ($13,50) J:diamond: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      SB checks, [color:red]Hero bets $8,50[/color], [color:red]SB raises to $22,86 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $9,75 (All-In).

      River: ($54,61) 5:spade: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $54,61

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a pair of kings (Kc Kh)[/color]
      [color:white]SB shows three of a kind, jacks (Jc Jh)[/color]

      [color:white]SB wins with three of a kind, jacks (Jc Jh)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      BB (25,00)
      
      
      MP3 (41,26):
      57	47	43	29
      14	135	5,0	17
      
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](5 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      [color:red]MP3 raises to $1,00[/color], [color:grey]3 folds[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $3,50[/color], MP3 calls $2,50.

      Flop: ($7,10) 7:heart: , 7:spade: , 6:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $3,50[/color], MP3 calls $3,50.

      Turn: ($14,10) 9:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]
      [color:red]Hero bets $8,00[/color], [color:red]MP3 raises to $34,26 (All-In)[/color], Hero calls $10,00 (All-In).

      River: ($66,36) 5:club: [color:blue](2 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $66,36

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows two pairs, queens and sevens (Qs Qc)[/color]
      [color:white]MP3 shows a full-house, nines full of sevens (9d 9s)[/color]

      [color:white]MP3 wins with a full-house, nines full of sevens (9d 9s)[/color]




      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      code:
      Position(Stack):
      BBvsSteal	WTS	W$SD	ORL
      RaisePreflop	hands	AF	vp$ip
      
      
      
      MP3 (36,20):
      100	40	50	0
      15	34	1,7	32
      
      
      
      CO (25,00):
      93	26	55	14
      7	1.074	2,2	9
      
      BU (25,00)
      

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em [color:blue](6 handed)[/color]
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:spade: , K:club:
      [color:grey]MP2 folds[/color], [color:red]MP3 raises to $0,75[/color], CO calls $0,75, [color:red]Hero raises to $3,75[/color], [color:grey]2 folds[/color], MP3 calls $3,00, CO calls $3,00.

      Flop: ($11,60) 6:spade: , J:spade: , 5:spade: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]
      MP3 checks, CO checks, [color:red]Hero bets $9,00[/color], [color:red]MP3 raises to $32,45 (All-In)[/color], CO calls $21,25 (All-In), Hero calls $12,25 (All-In), MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($75,35) 8:heart:
      River: ($75,35) 2:heart: [color:blue](3 players)[/color]


      Final Pot: $75,35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      [color:white]Hero shows a pair of kings (Ks Kc)[/color]
      [color:white]CO shows three of a kind, fives (5c 5d)[/color]
      [color:white]MP3 shows a pair of queens (Qc Qh)[/color]

      [color:white]CO wins with three of a kind, fives (5c 5d)[/color]




      Es geht noch unendlich weiter......

      Ich traue mich bald garnichts mehr, der Monat ist so frustrierend....
    • Hausschuh1
      Hausschuh1
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 03.05.2007 Beiträge: 120
      Also ich hab das momentan auch, das ich nur break even bin (aber nur über 10k Hände)!

      Habe auch selbiges Problem, das meine guten Hände nicht ausgezahlt werden oder ich eben ausgesuckt werde. Momentan wäre ich über 4-5 bb/100 glücklich ^^ :) .
    • cdset
      cdset
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 26.05.2006 Beiträge: 632
      nl 25 ist schon geil ich wolte jetzt auch schon 2 mal mein monitor verprügeln da ich jetzt auf 25k hände be bin da ich sogut wie jedes mal ein suckout
    • JustgAMblin
      JustgAMblin
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.01.2007 Beiträge: 11.439
      Sorgenhotline oder Frustabbau aber doch nicht bitte Poker allgemein.

      40k Hände BE is sowas von STANDARD und passiert dem besten Winning player.
    • Raysel
      Raysel
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 07.09.2006 Beiträge: 433
      Also Du has 46 Stacks (ohne RB) gemacht im August und bist frustriert? Die ganzen Beispielhände sind sowas von standard, und 40k breakeven...das passiert halt wenn man viele Hände spielt.

      Zu Deiner hourly: Move up, simple as that! Laut Deinem Graph hast Du über 200 Stacks für NL25. Spiel NL50 und dann NL100, das nimmt sich kaum was skilltechnisch und dann hast Du bald nen Stundenlohn der sich sehen lassen kann.
    • schleppschiss
      schleppschiss
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.09.2006 Beiträge: 888
      Hallo, Du bist die letzten 4 Monate jeweils 1000 Up auf NL25. Was willst du denn bitte schön mehr? Da kann man auch mal ne 2Wochen breakeven-Phase verkraften! Wenn du da gestärkt wieder rauskommst, dann gehts umso leichter voran.

      PS: Warum spielste nicht mal langsam NL50? Die Gegner sind dort sicher genauso schlecht wie auf NL25.
    • Picasso25
      Picasso25
      Gold
      Dabei seit: 25.09.2006 Beiträge: 5.748
      hidden inside brags mit NL25 sucken


      [] neidisch
    • onlyest
      onlyest
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 23.12.2006 Beiträge: 1.169
      frag mich auch was der thread soll ist das die neue art und weise zu braggen?
      move up und verringer vllt dein spielpensum dann steigt auch die winrate bzw wenn du deine bisherige auf NL 100 halten kannst kannst du ja schon zufrieden sein und monatlich wesentlich mehr einfahren als du es die letzten montate getan hast
    • Lance
      Lance
      Black
      Dabei seit: 24.09.2005 Beiträge: 3.268
      wieso spielt mal 500k hands auf den microstakes wenn man solider winningplayer ist?

      glaube mir du wirst dich später sehr darüber ärgern dass du nicht früher aufgestiegen bist. (ich habe ähnliches auf den midstakes gemacht und damit sicher sehr viel geld liegen lassen)

      abgesehen davon sind 40k hands breakeven absoluter standard und auch weit längere breakevenstrecken kommen oft vor
    • MinBetDonk
      MinBetDonk
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 13.09.2007 Beiträge: 3.515
      Original von Matzelinho89
      Jo, bin psychisch ziemlich am Ende.. Die letzten 10 Tage Spielpensum aufrecht erhalten, konzentriert und tiltfrei durchgegrindet und trotzdem kommt nichts bei rum. Ich verstehe meine marginale winrate nicht. Ich habe mir tausende Videos angeschaut, Handbewertungen ALLE durch. Spiele meine Hände ziemlich gut und trotzdem nur diese 4-5 BB auf 100.

      Mein Problem in den letzten Tagen. Ich hitte nichts, renne in Setups, werde ge-2-outert ohne Ende. Blind vs Blind hitte ich null, mass outs kommen nicht an etc. Contis werden IMMER gecallt, werde ausgesuckt oder bin eh behind etc.

      Bin kurz davor alles hinzuschmeißen. Spiele im Schnitt 4-5k Hände am Tag und spiele dafür auch meine 5 Stunden. Aber für umgerechnet realtiv wenig Gewinn 150 Stunden im Monat dafür zu investieren halte ich für sehr fragwürdig. Überlege deshalb ob ich's Pokern sein lasse.

      Ziel dieses Threads eig.: Teilt mir eure Erfahrungen mit. Eure längsten BE-Phasen, Downswings etc. Brauche ein bisschen Aufmunterung sonst zerlege ich bald wieder meine kleine Bude^^

      Hier noch der Graph. Habe den Zeitraum schwarz markiert ( Spiele zurzeit NL25 ):

      so isset... overall 5bb is doch ok..
    • alphee
      alphee
      Black
      Dabei seit: 31.08.2006 Beiträge: 783
      du spielst also seit rund 10 tagen BE? sicke scheisse, da würd ich auch sofort poker quitten!
    • Jafeeio
      Jafeeio
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 10.01.2007 Beiträge: 924
      move up to chase...winnings i guess
    • ilja
      ilja
      Black
      Dabei seit: 20.06.2006 Beiträge: 4.236
      40k hands ist nichts.

      Ich bin diesem Monat auch BE (~45k hands). Ansonsten s. meine Sig! ;)
    • Zottel86
      Zottel86
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 04.06.2008 Beiträge: 870
      was ist denn mit dir nicht i.o. so viele hände auf nl25... echt sick... steig doch mal auf und dann wird sich dein gewinnen steigern... denn die gegner sind auf nl50 genauso schlecht... und mach dir mal keinen kopf,wenn du mal 40k hände be spielst... nicht weiter wild,das passiert jeden mal... wo spielst du eigentlich???
    • wusah
      wusah
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 06.02.2006 Beiträge: 15.792
      lol 40k Hände

      meine längste BE Phase war >200k Hände inkl 45 stacks downswing. Und damals hatte ich 4ptbb auf 400k Hände.
    • troX21
      troX21
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 08.12.2007 Beiträge: 298
      lass es ein level sein!!
    • Eiturlyf
      Eiturlyf
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 28.06.2007 Beiträge: 634
      Ich würd bei soner sicken BE Phase aufjedenfall alles hinschmeissen!
    • christian88
      christian88
      Bronze
      Dabei seit: 09.08.2006 Beiträge: 1.508
      ca. 1.2k diesen Monat gemacht und sich dann beschweren? Noch einfacher Geld zu verdienen geht jawohl bald nicht mehr.
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